Political Forum » Lawsut Filed Over Obama's Place Of Birth

The former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, Philip J. Berg has filed a lawsuit in federal court claiming that Obama's United States birth certificate is not valid. You can read the rest of the story here, its rather interesting: http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/co ... -president

Flame away if you feel the need, but if its true according to our laws he cannot legally become president of this country.

Another Obama hater I see. Why are people so very afraid of change? It's pathetic.

He was born in America. According to the constitution, that means he is American. Unless you specifically give up your citizenship, by choice, you remain an American citizen.

I took the following quotes from the article referenced above:

Apparently Berg is a Democrat.

Apparently Berg isn't "an Obama hater" who is "afraid of change".

My opinion is Berg just wants some publicity for himself.

According to what I have read, they have found an official birth certificate for Obama in Kenya. Now if he was born in Kenya, unless the man is a god or something he could have been born in the USA at the same time. I feel that this will be swept in the rug like a lot of the garbage has lately.
It is sad that the USA is now rules by rule of thumb rather than rule of law. If our leaders refuse to follow the law as it is written what incentive do we as citizens have to do so? This leads to anarchy in my opinion. That or a dictatorship that could care less what we as a people think.

I disagree. There is no sane reason why a fellow democrat should be filing this suit. How about discussing it with Obama's people? How about trying to find out the truth first rather than smearing Obama's name?

No, let's just throw the mud first, who cares what damage it will do. And if it turns out to be wrong, oops!

I think this whole issue has been around for over a year at least. In any case I first heard about it over a year ago and no one in Obama's court, nor the rest of the government seems to even see it as an issue here. Much like our president breaking the so many laws he has broken, no one seems to think it is their responsibility and duty to remove him for office for breaking the law.

How old was Obama when he was adopted? Look, I came here as a (legal) immigrant and hence I would guess that I have a higher understanding of the way immigration in this country works.

If a legal citizen leaves this country and ultimately becomes a citizen of another country you do not give up your US citizenship. If you choose to fight for that country then yes, you could be made to give it up.

The only way you give it up is if you legally denounce your US citizenship. Now, as I understand it a minor can't do that anyway. And hence there is no way that he is not a citizen because of his adoption.

Now on the issue of his place of birth, there would be records with the state. The government would have access to these-the release of a copy of his birth certificate is just the sake of the public. Seriously, don't you think that the government would be able to and has checked that state records for the island show his birth there?

came across this site that is talking about a case in court where Philip J. Berg is suing to show that Obama cannot legally become president in this country because he does not qualify under our current legal system. Check it out.

http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/co ... -discovery

This has already been disproved, guys. Obama had dual citizenship due to his Kenyan mother but according to the laws of Kenya, it was legally relinquished by him not living there by the time he was a certain age. He was born in the US and has just as much legal status as any other citizen of the country. This was one of the silliest arguments against Obama that I've seen and I'm surprised the issue was raised by a fellow Democrat. I had thought it was just another smear tactic on the part of the Republicans.

There has been some recent turmoil over this matter since when Obama was asked to produce a birth certificate, he produced a fake. Obama now has until December 31st to come up with a real one, one stating that he was indeed born in the united states.

What will happen if he is not even eligible to become president?

McCain wins by default. Just kidding, I'm not sure what would happen, though I don't think they'd bend the rule at all for him. And if they did, revolt maybe?

This topic again? I thought this was resolved a long time ago. It really makes absolutely no sense given the man has already been a Senator for four years and passed the bar and practiced law for how many years before that? Did no one confirm that he was a citizen before any of that?

People who are naturalised but not natural born citizens can be senators, members of the bar and all that. Its only being president that immigrants are not eligible for.

However I believe that this issue was put to rest before the election after a PA senator brought it up. I have heard nothing of his birth certificate being a fake-and face it guys, the guy is president elect. Do you REALLY think that no one that works for the government has the power or ability to make a call and find out whether his birth was registered? He doesn't need a piece of paper, just to an agency acknowledging that yes, he was registered.

First I've heard of this. I can't believe he could have come this far without such a detail being checked out good and proper. I'm curious to know why the president can't be an immigrant though, if it's ok to be a senator? Sounds a bit like discrimination to me!

This is a bunch of none sense that has already been dealt with. Its time to put it to bed and stop trying to find ways to keep him out. The election has come and gone, and he won! Time to get over it....

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

Uhh, how the hell does it not?

Last time I checked you needed to be a US Citizen before you were allowed to even run for the presidents chair, so if it turned out he is not, then he does not get the job he wanted, isn't it that simple?


PS I never trust anything on snopes website.....

I am sure all of that has been check and rectified since it was first brought up so I am not the least bit worried about that happening at all.

Hey thanks for the snopes link, I guess I should have checked this one out before posting about it, my bad. Interesting though, that it is still flying around the rumor mill so frequently.

From all indications YES Obama was born in Africa NOT the U.S.
he has refused to provide his birth certificate due to the fact that it states it is a replacement. ie not the original

there is however one with his name and date of birth in Africa with his mothers signiture on it and listing his fathers name Obama's mother came to the United States about 8 or 9 months latter to live with her mother in hawaii

the big problem here is that there are people out there that just don't like the truth
but that dosn't make it any less the truth.

I can't believe I still hear people talk about this. O'reilly talked about this the other day and mentioned Obama's birth was announced in the Hawaiian papers!!!! Shoot, I guess I am one of the people still talking about it...